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popey
Nov 21st, 2008, 03:07
Any of you guys use this?

Ive got it on my PC and im really into it for doing a quick set and uploading it. thing is though i havent got a mixer for it yet and when i mix the beats sound like they are slightly out even though there fully matched, i can only use my mouse for it and really want to put my mixes on websites, thing is with the beats sounding like there slightly out theres no chance they would be accepted. Anyone know a resolution to this or will i have to pay the 95 for the mixer?

Cheers guys

Laan
Nov 21st, 2008, 10:26
I use Virtual dj, It works very well for me. I became very skilled with it. Although I'm not a dj, but virtual dj works fine for me.

dfx
Nov 21st, 2008, 10:42
the problem isn't the lack of the mixer, the problem is that vdj many times cannot sync the beats fully correctly.

vdj is only a software, it cannot "hear" the tunes, so when you hit that "sync" button, vdj is only taking an educated guess and will do its best to sync the beats up. but it's not perfect, as you say yourself you can hear that the beats are off.

so in other words: if you hear that the beats are off, they are really off and are not synced perfectly, even though vdj tells you that they are.

the only way to fix is to use the pitch bend buttons, the [+] and [-] buttons, to actually sync the beats up correctly. you will have to do prelistening with headphones (having only a single master output will not work) and learn how to use the pitch bend to fix it up. an external mixer will not help you with that, however it could help you make the prelistening easier (but not worth it IMO).

bottom line: trust your hearing, not the software!

as for the mouse problem: you can define hotkeys in vdj to make your life a lot easier. define hotkeys for the most common operations you're using (such as pitch bend, bass kill) to save you a lot of work with the mouse.

HTH

90degrees
Nov 21st, 2008, 14:21
wonders if the algorithms can be so perfected that other softwares seem to get it nearly always spot on, i.e. Traktor Pro, Live (warping) and even MixMeister.


the problem isn't the lack of the mixer, the problem is that vdj many times cannot sync the beats fully correctly.....

.....and learn how to use the pitch bend to fix it up. an external mixer will not help you with that, however it could help you make the prelistening easier (but not worth it IMO).
does VDJ speak Midi, could you assign a midi controller, maybe TriggerFinger or something else with sliders to get more hands-on and a finer adjustment to ride the pitch? surely it won't help you with the actual sync but it'll make the process easier to get right.


bottom line: trust your hearing, not the software!
QFT :grinning:
same with tracks, always listen to the tune, don't just see the artist. :mask:

dfx
Nov 23rd, 2008, 23:49
wonders if the algorithms can be so perfected that other softwares seem to get it nearly always spot on, i.e. Traktor Pro, Live (warping) and even MixMeister.
for some reason ableton never seems to get it right for me, i have to adjust the warping on each track...



does VDJ speak Midi, could you assign a midi controller, maybe TriggerFinger or something else with sliders to get more hands-on and a finer adjustment to ride the pitch? surely it won't help you with the actual sync but it'll make the process easier to get right.
just tested, vdj does speak midi quite well.

Plx
Dec 20th, 2008, 22:23
I have to put a reply... I used to work with VDJ and this is the reason why I moved onto Traktor. You hit the SYNC button - on the top of the screen it shows that it is perfectly beatmatched ... You even have the same BPM on each tune so there is nothing to do with pitch control. However on traktor you hit SYNC and it does not do any awful sounds. Once I made a demonstration of this problem - sth like comparing virtual dj with traktor but I deleted it:blink:

DreamensioN
Dec 21st, 2008, 03:34
Moved topic to Equipment.

DreamensioN
Dec 21st, 2008, 03:40
My contribution to this thread.

Popey - VDJ can be configured with different latency. You will have the issues you are experiencing on low-end soundcards. What you need to get is a high end ASIO (low latency) soundcard. Think of a high end soundcard, like a high end graphics card for playing 3D games. The beat-mismatch you are hearing is because your current soundcard (or possibly drivers) cannot process the audio fast enough.

Look at M-Audio USB soundcards, or the Echo Indigo DJ (made by Echo Audio). That is a laptop PCMCIA/PCI-Express based soundcard.

You can buy hardware mixers to control Virtual DJ - one such item is the NuMark Total Control. This USB hardware based mixer actually comes with a rebadged licenced version of Virtual DJ.


PLX: I think the problem you experienced with VDJ is the keylock feature. It is true, VDJ cannot handle keylock very well. If a track is keylocked, anything more than a 1-2% increase/decrease in speed, and it sounds like crap. Which is pointless because such a shift doesn't really change the key that much anyway.

Margoss
Dec 21st, 2008, 04:40
Popey - VDJ can be configured with different latency. You will have the issues you are experiencing on low-end soundcards. What you need to get is a high end ASIO (low latency) soundcard. Think of a high end soundcard, like a high end graphics card for playing 3D games. The beat-mismatch you are hearing is because your current soundcard (or possibly drivers) cannot process the audio fast enough.
i don't think this is really true, the beatmatching, syncing or whatever you want to call it, happens in vdj only, before the audio gets sent to the soundcard. only a single audio stream is sent to the soundcard, so there can't possibly be any latency related syncing problems there...

akosm5
Aug 25th, 2009, 17:56
Hi All!

I have a question: What do you think which is the "best" software to make mixes on my laptop?
Thanks in advance!

Amyy
Aug 9th, 2012, 08:12
im still consider Traktor

footsy
Sep 13th, 2012, 03:03
Traktor is better...

but to fix your problem you need to quantize it, basically you need to physically match the beats. It's pretty simple really, take the baseline wave and match it with the other baseline wave... kinda like real DJing but visual instead of by ear................ HA

yannistzav
Nov 20th, 2012, 19:23
Guys the post is from 2008.. Please stop answering :)
If popey is still looking for Vdj and how to match the bpms we have a problem here..! :P

DjAstreXHD
Feb 21st, 2013, 11:46
i had virtual dj, if u ask me it's dosnt worth nothing!! but if ure looking for easy way to mix. it's the no'1 for more pro way . use mixvibes...

giv32
Mar 11th, 2013, 16:40
hahahaa....youre right!....4 years later I think problem was solved!...and if not, I dont think will be in a life time...
...by the way...traktor pro 2 is way up better then any other programs!:music:

DJoseSolis
Mar 15th, 2013, 00:45
Virtual DJ is for beginners, amateurs, the software is too basic! ; )

akosm5
Feb 14th, 2015, 19:15
Hi All!

I'm considering to purchase a controller and not sure about the best choose.
Can VDJ handle / work with every kind of controller or is there anything I have to look for?

giv32
Feb 15th, 2015, 10:07
Hi All!

I'm considering to purchase a controller and not sure about the best choose.
Can VDJ handle / work with every kind of controller or is there anything I have to look for?
Dont waste money on beautyfull consoles!
Buy from Native Instruments 3 things...and you will be closest to pro dj's from around the world.
X1...Z1...F1...that is all you need!
When you will know how to use them at full potential you will remember my advice.
Good luck!