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Vicky Wood
Sep 10th, 2009, 22:31
Beatport presents Mixed In Key’s “Harmonic Mixing” DJ Contest

The challenge: Showcase your favorite music genre in a 10-15 minute mix that will impress our judges
which includes some of the world’s best DJs. The top winner will receive prizes worth over $3000 USD.

The top winner will receive:
- Cutting-edge “Thinkpad W500” laptop from Lenovo, configured by Mixed In Key for DJing and music production
- Brand-new Native Instruments Komplete 6 bundle - announced on September 1
- Native Instruments Traktor Scratch Pro, which includes the Audio 8 DJ sound card
- Free copies of all current and future Mixed In Key DJ products
- An article and interview with the winning DJ
- Mixed In Key “Gold Winner” award plaque

The Mixed In Key team will listen to each entry and pick the 20 best ones. The judging panel will then choose 5 winners.

The judges are:
High Contrast, drum & bass maestro from the UK
Pete Tong, host of BBC Radio 1’s Essential Mix and Essential Selection
Kaskade, house music producer and DJ from the US
Markus Schulz, trance DJ and producer based in Miami
Jonas Tempel, CEO and founder of Beatport
Yakov Vorobyev, founder of Mixed In Key

Contest details:
1) Entry deadline: October 15, 2009
2) The mix has to be 100% harmonic
3) Judging criteria: The mix must inspire listeners to become fans of that music genre,
take the listener on a journey, and showcase innovation in harmonic mixing.

Bonus points for original choice of tunes and samples and complex transitions, build-ups and breakdowns.

Visit Mixed In Key DJ Contest (http://contest.mixedinkey.com) to enter the DJ contest.

JeffreySource
Sep 10th, 2009, 23:16
2) The mix has to be 100% harmonic

Errr.. wth does that suppose to mean 8-)?

Vicky Wood
Sep 10th, 2009, 23:30
Errr.. wth does that suppose to mean 8-)?

all info/contact detail is on that site:

http://contest.mixedinkey.com/Images/contact.png

t4e
Sep 11th, 2009, 02:23
Errr.. wth does that suppose to mean 8-)?



you don't know what harmonic mixing is? :ee:

looks familiar?

http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/Images/camelotHarmonicMixing.jpg

Vicky Wood
Sep 11th, 2009, 09:18
The good old Circle of Fifths......

Some useful video tutorials on it here for those that are interested:

Harmonic Mixing Tutorials (http://www.track-finder.com/harmonic-mixing-tutorials.php)

t4e
Sep 11th, 2009, 15:13
The good old Circle of Fifths......

Some useful video tutorials on it here for those that are interested:

Harmonic Mixing Tutorials (http://www.track-finder.com/harmonic-mixing-tutorials.php)

he's priceless :ee:

at first i was a bit reluctant about the whole idea of sticking to keys, i felt that is limiting the choice of tracks you wanna play, than i tried it and was so pleased with the results that i became hooked on it, on the same token i would not make a whole set in the same key, maybe a couple of tracks than move up one :music:

JeffreySource
Sep 11th, 2009, 23:11
Aaahh... lol
I always use that... never knew it was called harmonic:P

cdman14
Sep 13th, 2009, 07:05
WOW...i have a lot to learn :)

cdman14
Sep 20th, 2009, 09:34
ok, so what's the catch? only 15 min???? of harmonic mix...that is kind of hard...maybe 3 tracks :)

Config
Sep 20th, 2009, 14:22
I'm not a fan of checking out keys ... in some kind of way it's not natural too me. Rather mix a set that's based on your feeling than an artificial one where everything has been planned in advance

XDR
Sep 20th, 2009, 20:15
I'm not a fan of checking out keys ... in some kind of way it's not natural too me. Rather mix a set that's based on your feeling than an artificial one where everything has been planned in advance

Mixing in key doesn't mean you need to plan your mix in advance. You can still mix based on what tracks you feel are right for the moment. When picking out the next tune you simply have an additional method of knowing which tunes fit together, and it's not like you always have to follow that method.
Knowing when tunes fit harmonically allows you to confidently make long transitions where you blend melodies and also makes mashups a lot easier to come up with.

t4e
Sep 27th, 2009, 06:45
ok, so what's the catch? only 15 min???? of harmonic mix...that is kind of hard...maybe 3 tracks :)


my problem with that is that they want you to make a "journey" with your 3 tracks mix lol...that's a run to the corner store, not a journey :ee:

XDR
Sep 30th, 2009, 16:44
my problem with that is that they want you to make a "journey" with your 3 tracks mix lol...that's a run to the corner store, not a journey :ee:

Although they don't say it, it's clear that they want you to do a sort of megamix-style set. You'll have to put in a lot more tracks than 3 to impress them with your mixing. Two nice transitions is just not gonna get you anywhere near the prices :smile:

t4e
Oct 1st, 2009, 01:11
Although they don't say it, it's clear that they want you to do a sort of megamix-style set. You'll have to put in a lot more tracks than 3 to impress them with your mixing. Two nice transitions is just not gonna get you anywhere near the prices :smile:



sure, but i still don't consider a 10-15 mix to be a journey

furthermore they want the mix to "inspire listeners to become fans of that music genre"

a megamix can't possibly inspire someone to become a fan, a megamix is appreciated by listeners that are familiar with the whole track

Joe-Shadows
Oct 1st, 2009, 02:22
he's priceless :ee:

at first i was a bit reluctant about the whole idea of sticking to keys, i felt that is limiting the choice of tracks you wanna play, than i tried it and was so pleased with the results that i became hooked on it, on the same token i would not make a whole set in the same key, maybe a couple of tracks than move up one :music:

Yeah ,, U 'vent 2 Make all the Set in 1 Key !!! ....

U Can Do it Like 1A/2A/3A/3A/4A/5A/6A/7A/6A/5A ...etc , .... Also F With F# & G With G# ...etc .

I Mean Organizing The Set Towards These 'll Results Too Good :-

1/ How Heavy The Track is ( Bassline & Kick Drums & BPM )
2/ Most Tracks in Corresponding Keys

I 've Tried Alot & Found That The Best Way For Building Up My Mixes ,,, Also Sometime If I want A Track 2 Be on & Not On key , Always Use The Original & Use My ears 2 See If it Fits Or Not :) !!!

I Know All Of These U knows ,, But Thinked That 'll be Helpful For Any New DJs Or Something :) ...

I Remember Before I Start DJing When I asked Xijaro About The Key Thing :) ... He Guided Me To Alot :) ,,,, Thx My Friend :friends:

Joe-Shadows
Oct 1st, 2009, 02:24
sure, but i still don't consider a 10-15 mix to be a journey

furthermore they want the mix to "inspire listeners to become fans of that music genre"

a megamix can't possibly inspire someone to become a fan, a megamix is appreciated by listeners that are familiar with the whole track

:iagree::iagree::iagree: 10-15 mins re Not Enough 2 Admit By Listeners Or 'll Not Guide Anyone Towards A Genre !!!

I See Mega Mix 's Commercial More Than A Mix With Full Tracks !!!

dfx
Oct 2nd, 2009, 02:37
U Can Do it Like 1A/2A/3A/3A/4A/5A/6A/7A/6A/5A ...etc , .... Also F With F# & G With G# ...etc .
no you can NOT mix F into F# or G into G#, that will sound totally horrible!

Joe-Shadows
Oct 2nd, 2009, 03:29
no you can NOT mix F into F# or G into G#, that will sound totally horrible!

I Tried Many Tunes In That way & Worked :) !! Maybe In Not All Cases :grinning2:

It Also Differs From The Way Each DJ Mix !!!

dfx
Oct 2nd, 2009, 06:17
I Tried Many Tunes In That way & Worked :) !!
then you totally did not understand harmonic mixing.

going one semitone up or down is almost as far off-key as you can go.

t4e
Oct 2nd, 2009, 06:36
I 've Tried Alot & Found That The Best Way For Building Up My Mixes ,,, Also Sometime If I want A Track 2 Be on & Not On key , Always Use The Original & Use My ears 2 See If it Fits Or Not :) !!!




what you mean "use the original", the original mix, what's wrong with a remix?

Joe-Shadows
Oct 2nd, 2009, 14:18
then you totally did not understand harmonic mixing.

going one semitone up or down is almost as far off-key as you can go.

Well I Scarcely Do That G With G#$ ,,,etc ... Mostly I Do The Way as I Told 2A/3A/ ....etc .... Few Some Tracks I Mixed Which Like I Told :mask: & I Can Prove That :) !!! & Also I Think Most Of My Mixes 're Well Built Up !! So I Dont need 2 Worry Coz That Works With Me

SOmething I Want 2 add , That Mixed in Keys Developer ThemSelves Confessed That Mixed in Key Program is not 100% Accurate in Reading Keys :grinning2: ... So As I Told in Some Ways it Works :)

& As I Told Ya ,, Everyone has his Own Way in mixing :) !! ,,



what you mean "use the original", the original mix, what's wrong with a remix?

Nopeee !!! ,, I meant The Origin ( Our Ears ) ,, Coz Mixed in Keys is Not 100% Accurate :grinning2: !!

t4e
Oct 2nd, 2009, 15:08
Nopeee !!! ,, I meant The Origin ( Our Ears ) ,, Coz Mixed in Keys is Not 100% Accurate :grinning2: !!


there's other programs that would give you the keys

while i agree that some tracks will mix in nicely at even 3 "hours" difference i can't agree that mixing two tracks on the opposite sides of the spectrum can possibly sound good, the melodies will crash badly, assuming you are not using any other sounds/effects to bridge the transition, which is not the purpose of this competition and doesn't qualify as mixed in key

Joe-Shadows
Oct 2nd, 2009, 20:26
there's other programs that would give you the keys

while i agree that some tracks will mix in nicely at even 3 "hours" difference i can't agree that mixing two tracks on the opposite sides of the spectrum can possibly sound good, the melodies will crash badly, assuming you are not using any other sounds/effects to bridge the transition, which is not the purpose of this competition and doesn't qualify as mixed in key

Yeah !! I Use Another Program Which Detects Also The keys !! But There 's Something I Just Noticed ,,, That The Program I Use Doesnt Read The Same SeQuence of The Key & KeyCode Of The Spectrum :O !!! ...

I Think It's Not In Opposite Side !! I Reviewed many Old Sets I did & Found That about 3 Times I Did mix on That way & was the transition at least good with no noise , I believe u 're right Too ( Theoretical ) But in Practical Key Readers 're not 100% accurate ,,,

also Something I Did Deduce from Tryin 2 Produce ,, That I may Make a Track With Key Code 7A & After Finishing it , It Becomes 9A For Ex.

Therefore The Other Elements in The Track affects also the Keys ,,, That means That The Key reader 'll Not Predict The Key of The Melody Alone , Just Only The Sound Of The Whole Track ,,, If The MaJority of The Track Elements Key 're 7A 'll Read The Whole Key 7A ,, While May be The Track Main Pads For Ex 's 4A 'when Readed Seperatly !!!!

Just My Point !!!Despte I Support Using Key SeQuence ,,, But If The Keys SaYs NO & May My Ears Says Yes & in That Case I 'd Trust My Ears :lol: :music:

t4e
Oct 2nd, 2009, 20:38
Just My Point !!!Despte I Support Using Key SeQuence ,,, But If The Keys SaYs NO & May My Ears Says Yes & in That Case I 'd Trust My Ears :lol: :music:


there will always be some errors in detection, so that is certainly the way to go, your ears and experience surpasses any machine based result :ee:

dfx
Oct 2nd, 2009, 20:53
I Think It's Not In Opposite Side !! I Reviewed many Old Sets I did & Found That about 3 Times I Did mix on That way & was the transition at least good with no noise

it still is on almost opposite sides. F is on 4A and F# is on 11A. that's a difference of 5 keys!


also Something I Did Deduce from Tryin 2 Produce ,, That I may Make a Track With Key Code 7A & After Finishing it , It Becomes 9A For Ex.

Therefore The Other Elements in The Track affects also the Keys ,,, That means That The Key reader 'll Not Predict The Key of The Melody Alone , Just Only The Sound Of The Whole Track ,,, If The MaJority of The Track Elements Key 're 7A 'll Read The Whole Key 7A ,, While May be The Track Main Pads For Ex 's 4A 'when Readed Seperatly !!!!

you're confusing chords with keys. a track only has a single key, but has many different chords. as for mixing, the key is only a rough guideline, which most of the time works "good enough", but for real perfect mixing, you'd have to note the beginning chord and the ending chord of each track. many times they're the same as the key, but not always, in which cases the transitions won't be perfectly in-key... please read up on musical theory. the more different chords you have in a track, the less accurate key detection will be, because there is less of a "real true" answer to the question which key the track is in.

that's why there's so many bad sounding mashups out there. noob "producers" taking two tracks that are in the same key and just putting the parts over each other, while the tracks are actually changing chords at different spots, making the mashup sound totally awful.


Well I Scarcely Do That G With G#$ ,,,etc ... Mostly I Do The Way as I Told 2A/3A/ ....etc .... Few Some Tracks I Mixed Which Like I Told :mask: & I Can Prove That :) !!! & Also I Think Most Of My Mixes 're Well Built Up !! So I Dont need 2 Worry Coz That Works With Me

ok, but you're missing the point. yes, there's many transitions that will sound fine while they're not in-key. but either you're mixing in-key or you aren't, and when you go from F to F#, you are totally off-key!

MinDV1RU5
Oct 7th, 2009, 23:59
To upload are we just uploading the MP3 or are we uploading a video of ourselves DJ'ing? Please help someone.

WorldBeyond
Oct 8th, 2009, 01:56
You are 3 days late lol.

MinDV1RU5
Oct 8th, 2009, 01:57
You are 3 days late lol.

Are you talking to me? lol.

WorldBeyond
Oct 8th, 2009, 02:50
Just talking to myself.

No, what do you think man... :lol:

MinDV1RU5
Oct 8th, 2009, 06:57
Just talking to myself.

No, what do you think man... :lol:

So do you think we have to record ourselves DJ'ing? :P

Vicky Wood
Oct 8th, 2009, 12:15
I would imagine it's an mp3 that is uploaded to them, for any questions regarding the competition, please email the hosts of the competition: contact@mixedinkey.com or check Mixed In Key DJ Contest (http://contest.mixedinkey.com/) for more info

Closing date is the 15th so only a few days left.

DjPuesto
Oct 9th, 2009, 17:13
harmonic mixing is something that don't works always, when you've no clue or what to mix next (if you are mixing a set of 4 hours sooner or later you'll have to mix something unprepared) you can get help of the keys or trust in your ear, doing some active listening you can realize similar bass or similar melodies that could fit but it's not a must.

Also you can try cool things like

+1,+0,+1,+0 one of my favourite ones, never tryed -1,-1,-1 it might be cool too :D it's something innovative mixing in keys

DjPuesto
Oct 9th, 2009, 17:27
no you can NOT mix F into F# or G into G#, that will sound totally horrible!


this is completely true, if you have ever played the piano you would know that if you are playing F and play F # (the black one) it sounds really distorted, sharps sound horrible with "common ones" (white ones) unless some exceptions that make the mixing in key possible