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Dan
Oct 4th, 2006, 05:42
There has been a discussion and rumor about us (AfterHours.FM) being thieves that take DJs from other particular EDM radio stations on the internet, such as Sense.FM used to be SENSEGENERATE.FM. These assumptions are false and misguided. AfterHours.FM does not actively recruit DJ's from other stations in any matter. All afterhours.fm DJ's are here on their own free will.

Afterhours.FM is here to serve the EDM community. Afterhours.FM supports all DJ's & producers of the dance music scene and encourages DJ's & producers to make up their own mind, and excercise their best judgement when confronted with false statements and facts about this station

If you hear anything about Afterhours.FM that may concern you, or worries you - please PM a moderator or email info@afterhours.fm to discuss the matter further and for clarification on the issue.

Logs on False accusing acts are available

Afterhours Founder
Dan

Jorda
Oct 4th, 2006, 05:47
Good, let everyone know about this. And people, please post your feelings and what you think about this incident. This is giving a bad name towards AfterHours, and we need your help to keep people who cause conflicts such as this to stay a few miles away from us.

Thanks.

Pascal_Bennung
Oct 4th, 2006, 06:21
Ok i wrote with Ivan and Dan and i think its a hard time for webradios!!! they need the listerns and djs. Its normal that stations are asking then for new djs. Some stations are big and some little and they have resident djs since years. But its up to the dj where he wants to play!!! I play now on 4 stations and its all with my free will. Thats bullshit to say, that a station steal other stations residents. If the resident like his station then he stay there. But what is the prob when a dj (resident) plays on other stations??? That has nothing to do with the Owner of the station, thats the decision of the dj. A better question would be: why has the dj left my station???

keep fair and do it for the music not for money or big fame!!!

Robbie
Oct 4th, 2006, 06:54
A better question would be: why has the dj left my station???

Couldnt have said it better myself. If a DJ has left your station and come to AH, DI, ETN, whatever the case, he/she has done so out of there own free will. I dont understand how AH could have stolen DJ's. Its common sense when you think about it.

Miric
Oct 4th, 2006, 07:06
This guy is totally wrong about AH.FM. He'd better recognize soon or else it will be too late.

djsentinel
Oct 4th, 2006, 07:14
Total bullshit. Who are they to accuse AH's?

AlexXdude
Oct 4th, 2006, 08:02
I find it hilarious that people are making those kinds of claims. What makes it so funny is the fact that you actually have to make a thread and express your desire to DJ at AfterHours, post a sample mix, and the likes. Now, I don't know about you, but last I checked, there was never someone standing over my shoulder, ready to beat me to a pulp if I didn't want to DJ at AH. Not only so, but the effort needed to go through the process is alot more than just saying "Hey, I'm AfterHours.fm and I'm on ur site, stealin' ur DJz"

To sum things up; the people who've been making these claims clearly do not know what they are talking about and I believe simply pointing to this thread: http://forum.afterhours.fm/showthread.php?t=3424 - should reveal their ignorance rather quickly.

It irritates me to no end to discover that there are some that are bad mouthing this website, its community and Dan, who's been doing all of this free of charge.

Mike_Noir
Oct 4th, 2006, 08:44
heh i cant add anymore what have been said in here, thats bullshit afterhours.fm never stolen any DJ etc from other station everything depend from the DJ.......

SolidBase
Oct 4th, 2006, 08:50
Thats total bullshit

Afterhours.fm does no such thing, i have been only for a few weeks

and this place is a great community and awesome radio!

one of the best!

DJs here, are here on there own free will, like ME!

afka
Oct 4th, 2006, 12:45
omfg this must be a joke of 2k6, whoever spread rumours like this should turn off his/her pc & get some fresh air :puke:, you are pathetic. All dj's/listeners are here because they :love: this station & as written on the first post...

"Afterhours.FM supports all DJ's & producers of the dance music scene and encourages DJ's & producers to make up their own mind"

...our support & respect belongs 110% to afterhours.fm founders for this huge opportunity to play & listen such great music & sets

Dan
Oct 4th, 2006, 17:59
Thank You guys for feedback on this. Best way is to ignore these accusations and make AH grow and grow stronger.

ianholing
Oct 4th, 2006, 18:54
Ok i wrote with Ivan and Dan and i think its a hard time for webradios!!! they need the listerns and djs. Its normal that stations are asking then for new djs. Some stations are big and some little and they have resident djs since years. But its up to the dj where he wants to play!!! I play now on 4 stations and its all with my free will. Thats bullshit to say, that a station steal other stations residents. If the resident like his station then he stay there. But what is the prob when a dj (resident) plays on other stations??? That has nothing to do with the Owner of the station, thats the decision of the dj. A better question would be: why has the dj left my station???

keep fair and do it for the music not for money or big fame!!!

I can't tell it better.. I'm supporting AH since almost it begins and I think it's a radio where whoever want's to mix, it's a normal fact that people comes here. This guy should be worried about what is he doing wrong, maybe his radio is not a friendly place like this.

just shut up and work dude!

Config
Oct 4th, 2006, 18:55
i cant tell more .. everything already has been told... ;)

Ah is going to the top ! :ah:

Stella
Oct 4th, 2006, 19:14
Dan, AH.fm dj's and peoples,you already know what I think about this station,I am here since early times... I support and will continue to support Afterhours.fm as much as I can

I agree those rumors are totally fecking bulls***

cya ;)

LeSaux
Oct 4th, 2006, 21:05
only 2 words........

:ah:

LMK
Oct 4th, 2006, 22:07
only 2 words........

:ah:

I am going to have to second that. :ah:

And :P to all those who try to put it down. We aren't a community trying to bring competition but a communitry trying to share trance music with the world. :)

ClubGirl
Oct 7th, 2006, 10:34
I agree with everybody... :)

I think this speculations and situations called : jealous... So don't worry Dan, WE KNOW THE TRUTH :)

DistantLand
Oct 8th, 2006, 12:32
The dude is just jealous AH has more listeners... :bike:

:drum:

:redmoon:

Dan
Oct 8th, 2006, 17:07
haah that bike icon is awesome !! you mind if i copy it into our icon list?

DistantLand
Oct 9th, 2006, 03:45
haah that bike icon is awesome !! you mind if i copy it into our icon list?

i got it off ahs forum list! ;)

Van Deka
Oct 9th, 2006, 03:59
:dnfnoob: :lolz:
lol my two favs

edit- btw dan thanx for the new tag
AH Sr. member =)

Van Deka
Oct 9th, 2006, 19:34
^^^
Nice rant i must say but theres too many thing wrong with your letter of idiocy.
by exclusive Dan means that they are only live on AH at this point and time, yes you are right that some DJs were not founded here, but out of the 80+ we have here how many have been founded here. Although i cant justify anything Dan said, i know that there is a reason so many DJs are switching to AH, even though they arent getting paid.
About this "broadcast license" im currently working on a CCTV project in my HS, and i suggest you research some terms before you point them out. Since everyrthing on AH is mixed or the very few mp3s that Dan has playing at 4AM there is no need for royalties. Why do you think so many Podcasts and small television stations have prospered.

"
Please have a look at the SenseGenerate.FM website and you will find a link to the SWCast Network (swcast.net) where we are legalized to stream audio content. SenseGenerate.FM has a 6,000 listener slot capacity including an up to 500kbps in and out connection both on audio and video."

nobody cares about your website, if you came to advertise, thats a bit pointless seeing as AH listeners stay loyal to the great music this amazing website provides.

and usually when people post these kinds of things its fueled by jealousy.

ps-im srry for my horrible typing but im working on a project and i coudlnt read this and just say nothing, although Ivan most likely spent about 2 days on that in microsoft word.
and one last thing, at least you're smart enough to check out the competitions forums, and take a look at what you'll never be able to beat.

Van Deka
Oct 9th, 2006, 19:37
:ah: :dnfnoob: :ah:
and if you ant aware Ivan your 192k stream uing WMP doesnt work if you are using firefox

WillETN
Oct 9th, 2006, 20:22
Hi guys. I got pointed to this thread by someone saying that AF.fm was trying to take credit for some ETN shows, and I can clearly see from the whole thread and show descriptions that that isn't the case, which is nice :) I've never heard anything but good things about Afterhours.fm, and I've never heard about them trying to recruit or steal DJs from other stations. For the record, Ivan from Sensegenerate has also always been cool. I just wanted to chip in real quick and help somebody out who obviously dosen't know the definition of the word "exclusive" (and possibly "syndicated").

In the online radio world, referring to a show as "exclusive" clearly means that you're the only station carrying the show, period. It does NOT mean "I'm the only one carrying it at this timeslot". I have read some of the show descriptions (like RVG's RAW show) and it clearly says in the show description that it's on other stations, and even lists those stations! most stations don't give that courtesy... ETN dosen't list all the other stations I share shows with because 1) I honestly don't know and 2) we don't have a suitable location for that. "Syndicated" refers to any show that is an identical show played on multiple stations. Sensegenerate.fm listed a few like Playground, RAW, Phased out Phriday... and I bet M.I.D.O.R., Mark Norman, Michael Splint's, and possibly a few others are shared also. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, as long as a station isn't trying to claim they're exclusive that's just bad form. I have had to change many show titles over the years from "exclusively on ETN.fm" to "live on ETN.fm" because I found out they've gotten the show on other stations.

when you say "where a show originated" consider this... there is always a first station that carried the show but the show originates from the DJ. many bigger/professional DJs have figured out the power of internet radio, and from their perspective it makes very little sense to only reach ONE station's audience, they want to reach the audience of MANY stations and reach as many people as possible. I and ETN consider the show to be the intellectual property of the ARTIST, not the station (the station owns the broadcast... it's complicated). Unless you're like, say DI which makes DJs sign exclusivity CONTRACTS then the artist should be free to shop his show around to as many stations as they want. This is of course assuming there's no money or contracts involved. But the internet is still a free market... just because a DJ left one station or went to an addition station.. well that's their perrogative isn't it?

This isn't just meant for the Afterhours.fm admins, though it might apply to someone (and I'm not saying it does), but to anybody who runs an internet radio: If you have a totally exclusive show, be proud as hell about it. If it's not, be proud you're a member of the syndication. Choose your words carefully and don't misrepresent yourself, the internet audience as a whole is very unforgiving :)


I've told Ari this many times, the internet is a HUGE place and I think there's plenty of room for all of us. Cheers to anyone who takes the time & effort to run a radio station, especially a not-for-profit one, for love of the music. You do a hell of a lot more good for the scene than any flaming forum trawler :)

Van Deka
Oct 9th, 2006, 20:34
^^ im glad there are some people that can speak without any sort of bias, some very goodpoint you brought up will.

Dan
Oct 9th, 2006, 22:13
Well, this happened exactly just as I suspected that it would. Dan never understood the fact that this argument was never over the performance of two stations.

This was totally over the performance of your station and my, in our conversation few days back you have mentioned as i quote

"[22:17] Ivan | SenseGenerate.FM - Check out Mainstream & Diversity Channels at www.sensegenerate.com!: (http://www.sensegenerate.com!:) I busted my ass to create a station for other to enjoy and then have people like you come and benefit from me?"
Thats very clear to me, it shows a false statement and at the same time jealousy.


When I spoke with Dan I simply wanted him to understand the face and the meaning of the word "syndicated" which apparenlty he does not. He claimed that just about all of the show on AH.fm were "exclusive". I begged to differ knowing that most of your guy's shows air on ETN or DI first since I have been in this scene along longer than Dan has.

I will agree you with you on one thing Ivan, that is the fact "yes" we have a few shows that are same "name" from previous radios that have aired it. For example Ronald Van Gelderen started I believe a show on ETN called R.A.W. well that show has been cancelled by Ronald and we agreed for him to plat here with carrying on the same name "R.A.W." I believe this show does play on another european station BUT its played here weekly and first before any station.

This is a similar case to a few other DJ's such as Macarius, Revel, Elucidate, and I might have forgotten others. But 90% of DJ's are exclusive shows I will name a few:

Aly & Fila
M.I.D.O.R
Tenthu
Hydroid
Hawk
Manuel Le Saux
Under Sun
Michael Splint
Blake Jarrell
XiJaro
Vision84
Nitrous Oxide
Pascal Bennung
Ilya Malyuev
Underwater
Eco
Total Digital Recordings ( agency )

Plus many many other djs, and they can post here to clarify that its ONLY for this station. So I ask you to go over my schedule http://www.AH.fm/schedule.htm and compare who plays where before you speak.

Just to give a prime example of some of the shows that I was telling about...

1. Danjo & Styles - Playground (not exclusive to AH, airs on ETN first)
2. Ronal Van Gelderen - RAW (not exclusive, airs on ETN first)
3. Sean Tyas - Phased out Friday (also airs on ETN first, then ah)
4. Elucidate - Deep In Vocal Euphoria (first on DI, then on SENSEGENERATE.FM, then ah)

Will explain in same order you did:
1. Danjo & Styles on ETN ( Playground every 1st Tuesday on the trance channel.) on AH.fm ( 1st Sunday every month ) so depending on which of these falls in first its played there first.
2. Ronald van Gelderen used to play on ETN before he cancelled his show there, he does play here now weekly.
3. Sean Tyas has a show on ETN "Frequently Friday" and a show here "phased out fridays" Phased out is exclusive to AH.FM.
4. Elucidate Plays on di.fm ( Tuesday ) then followed by on sensegenerate ( wednesday ) then AH.fm on ( Thursday ) .

My point is it may be plays on 100 radios as long as it gets played

These are some examples of some of the shows that Dan thinks are exclusive shows to AH. Now, I could make a full list of ALL the shows that Dan thinks are exclusive but are really syndicated but that's not exactly what i'm trying to say here.

Mentioned above about exclusive to AH.FM only

I've also saved the convesation I had with Dan on MSN where he said so many things that are untrue about AH.fm and I would be more than happy to post it all around the internet if i felt to be a huge *******.

I have exact same log ( hence we spoke ) and there is nothing in any way or shape of form said negative about any other radio or djs. On the otehr hand ivan ... I have logs of you calling AH.fm djs "babies" calling one specific DJ that has left your station very disturbing names ( log available )

Dan does not preserve the originality and give credit to those Djs that have been found at other stations. I could care less if any of my old residents were on AH.fm, which some they are such as Dj Eco, Paulo Der Munoz, Mark Ottiz....and these guys would not be around if it wasn't for SENSEGENERATE.FM where they started off.

I never knew where they were, DJ eco left ETN and joined AH thats all I know, as far as Paulo well you kicked him out due to a very stupid reason why I wont mention on here due to you might losing more DJ's ( Paulo can comment on this very well if youd like Ivan ) Mark Ottiz came to me for a spot and I offered it to him. So please dont put the quilt on me cause djs are leaving your station to join another one, ( Its djs choice what he chooses and where he chooses to play at, I dont steal ANYONE from ANYWHERE its DJ's own will to choose what he wants and what makes him most comfortable )

My last question to Dan is.....Where is your broadcast license? You had claimed that you were Incorporated and you had a broadcast license?! I do not see anything on the AH website that states you are legally authorized to broadcast audio on the internet, in other words you're not paying royalties.

Please look into Canada and its own streaming laws BEFORE you open your mouth. I still dont see how this is on topic "me trying to steal your djs or benefiting from your station"






Please have a look at the SenseGenerate.FM website and you will find a link to the SWCast Network (swcast.net) where we are legalized to stream audio content. SenseGenerate.FM has a 6,000 listener slot capacity including an up to 500kbps in and out connection both on audio and video.

Im really happy for you and I hope your station will be a great place to tune into.

I know that this will only start up more controversy but could care less because I'm seriously tired of supporting bedroom Djs that afterwards have to go and downgrade my station after all that we could have done.

DJ's speak for themselves mate, I do not make anything up, its how you treat them, they will treat you same way back.






P.S. Dan, I do not see links to any of the BIG labels and recording companies you mentioned about that are behing Afterhours. Where are they?

Thats your research :) you think AH would get this far by just me? your wrong, its a group effort.

Thank You for your time!


Sincerely,
Ivan
Owner & Founder
SenseGenerate.FM


Just to add to all this, what Ivan had to say still does not reflect anything about me trying to steal his DJ's, its more of a personal issue with DJ's leaving his radio and coming here. I have done nothing wrong to any Radio or any DJ. I just hope we could leave all this BS behind and move on with giving the best shows, highest quality possible so the community grows, DJ's get their names out and get the most promotion possible.

Just read Will ETN's post and will comment on it:

Let me start off by syaing Thank you for registering, I believe we have never spoken before, I added you to msn but you did not reply. Anyhow reading your post really shows how of a nice guy you are and just understanding. I would also like to say great job on ETN, I know how much work is involved and I really have alot of respect for you on what you created, you and ARI ( di.fm ). I could not agree with you more on what you have said, it does not matter where the shows air out, but the fact that they do and listeners enjoy the music. Keep up the great work mate, respect!!

I have build this radio station with one purpose and that is to have the biggest djs and amateur ones play great music, give them a nice "home" feeling and at the same time give all the listeners the freedom to listen to the great shows for free. This is not a business but more of a hobby due to the love for music of EDM, keep the scene running and growing.

So to Ivan, once again lets leave all your grief and jealousy behind and move on, try to provide the best for all DJ's and listeners. Its not easy work, but Im sure your a nice guy on the inside and want the best for the EDM scene. I just wanted to make things clear for everyone to know that AFTERHOURS.FM has done nothing bad to anyone and DJ's can speak and back AFTERHOURS.FM on that 100%.

cheers and let te music play ! :)
/me hands a beer to everyone reading this

Miric
Oct 9th, 2006, 23:25
Cheers Dan, let's drink for that :)

Acuario51
Oct 9th, 2006, 23:25
There has been a discussion and rumor about us (AfterHours.FM) being thieves that take DJs from other particular EDM radio stations on the internet, such as SENSEGENERATE.FM. These assumptions are false and misguided. AfterHours.FM does not actively recruit DJ's from other stations in any matter. All afterhours.fm DJ's are here on their own free will.

Afterhours.FM is here to serve the EDM community. Afterhours.FM supports all DJ's & producers of the dance music scene and encourages DJ's & producers to make up their own mind, and excercise their best judgement when confronted with false statements and facts about this station

If you hear anything about Afterhours.FM that may concern you, or worries you - please PM a moderator or email info@afterhours.fm to discuss the matter further and for clarification on the issue.

Logs on False accusing acts are available

Afterhours Founder
Dan



this are commentaries from short mind people, dont worry about it Dan, as you say in your short but very good post, this digital radio station is for everyone who wants to joint. (Producers, Djs and listeners...!

keep on my friend, The Force is with you...:)

Config
Oct 10th, 2006, 00:48
/me hands a beer to everyone reading this

cheers! :)

AlexXdude
Oct 10th, 2006, 03:38
Good post, Dan. Some good stuff going around here! <3 AH.

Jorda
Oct 10th, 2006, 03:58
If I hear that Ivan kid start stupidity for the most immature reason again, watch what I'm going to do. The guy thinks he can come here and cause problems off of jealousy, buddy, MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT? Stop trying to cause choas on a internet radio that has been growing faster then your Senses Garbage Gate radio. Get the **** out of here and don't come back, I'll ban you. People like you piss me off.

Jorda
Oct 10th, 2006, 04:06
AND YES ALL OF THE SHOWS ARE EXCLUSIVE, WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Jesus Christ you're a waste of time, and yes I'm acting immature right now because you deserve attention. That's all you're trying to get right now, get the **** out of here man.

Van Deka
Oct 10th, 2006, 05:33
w00t @ jorda
that was great *tear tear sniffle sniffle*
u better ban him lol

seantyas
Oct 10th, 2006, 16:45
just to clear it up, I do 2 shows yea, Phased Out Phriday on AH.fm and Frequency Friday on etn. They are of course similar shows, the opening house is usually Ryan Tyas on each show, sometimes different. But each show has a differet show, though the tracks are of course going to coincide quite often. I wont play new tracks just because they are new, just basically playing what i play out.

But yea, as far as I know, as long as I never mixed and sets up, Both etn and AH both get unique sets from me, not to mention 95% of my guest mixes are all done unique to a station when they ask..

Was there a particular show in question?

Dan
Oct 10th, 2006, 16:49
Specific show "Phased out Fridays" was in question, Ivan said it airs out on ETN also, but once again he was wrong.

Thank You Sean for clearing it up :)

cheers mate and keep up the great work.

friTTe
Oct 10th, 2006, 21:33
Nice to see that this finally coming to an end..seems that Ivan doesnt really know what hes talking about..
And Tyas must say im a big fan of your work (no matter where its played =)
Later

Jorda
Oct 12th, 2006, 06:28
Thanks Sean for clearing this bullshit up. Ivan, where are you now? Might as well throw your garbage mouth away to people who believe you. Do me a favour:

Don't come back
Leave us alone
Learn more about "misunderstanding"
Grow up
Never speak again

fila
Oct 13th, 2006, 14:05
To add to what have been said, Dan never asked me to have Spiritual moment or future sound of Egypt on AH.FM , he only asked for a possibility of having a brand new show and exclusive for AH.FM and i think that clears things up ;)

:ah:

Dan
Oct 13th, 2006, 16:19
To add to what have been said, Dan never asked me to have Spiritual moment or future sound of Egypt on AH.FM , he only asked for a possibility of having a brand new show and exclusive for AH.FM and i think that clears things up ;)

:ah:


Thank you brother for kind words :) much respect

MDUB
Oct 19th, 2006, 22:13
Isn't our goal to just spread the music we love to anyone who's interested in listening to it. Your audience will decide what they want to hear and the more music that is out there, the better.

That's my thoughts about this.

Don't worry about this Dan. I think you're doing the Dance Community good by getting so many quality shows on AH.FM

LDJ
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:02
lmao IVAN, such a twat, djs left my little station and came here, you didnt see me kicking up a fuss about it, sure i was pissed off that they did it, and after a little while i stopped caring, get over it man, AH.fm is growing big and your station is disappearing into nothingness, ciao and godspeed

LDJ

djxtc25
Oct 27th, 2006, 00:47
Just to put my 2 cents in here. Dan please, please do not talk to our competition! If they have problems with DJ's switching stations, or AH recruiting DJ's from other stations, than that's a problem that our competition needs to bring up to those DJ's who have switched. Not AH! I've been in this business long enough to know that if someone switches stations you don't go after the station managers. It's the DJ's choice to broadcast on AH! Active recruiting happens in this industry all the time, it's part of this industry. It's highly competitive. I've been actively recruited for my show as well, however I've made the choice to be loyal and exclusive to AH. It's the DJ's choice to broadcast on AH, and in online radio the DJ's own their own shows and make their own choices on where they want to broadcast not the stations (unless signed under contract).

Who cares who's exclusive to who or not. No online radio station "makes" anybody. It's the DJ's that "make" or "break" themselves through the choices they make, and music they play. In my 5 years of online radio, I've never heard of the station or the manager that replied to this thread (and I know several label reps and so does Dan, I know because Ive introduced him to quite a few), and in my 5 years of online radio I've never seen such a professionally designed station as AH, and never once have I ever listened to or belonged to an online radio that has the consistent quality of streams as we do.

I find it very concerning that a "professional" online broadcaster would reply to a thread like this on his competitors site. It's ridicules. ***** to the DJ's that switched not us please, and if Ivan claims to be in this business as long as he has, he should know that.

Chill out guys, and if future DJ's switch over from a competitors stations, tell them to take it up with the DJ's not AH.

Cheers,

Laan
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:53
What are ppl getting jealours about ah getting big? Thats pretty pathetic! AH is young and this good already. I understand owners from other radiostations are worried. All ah does is in a legal way. And links to: 4djsonly.com and other dj support sites will be places later on ofcourse.:ah:

djxtc25
Oct 28th, 2006, 02:42
What are ppl getting jealours about ah getting big? Thats pretty pathetic! AH is young and this good already. I understand owners from other radiostations are worried.

Not worth getting in verbal online scraps over. I'm just dumbfounded that Ivan came over here and replied to this thread. Very unprofessional. I think Dan was just trying to protect AH by posting a topic like this, not start stuff, but maybe a good idea to avoid other station managers since some of them can't act in a professional way, rather than getting into a battle of words that hurts everyone involved.

I think Ivan should post an appology to AH. I think that reply he left was uncalled for even if he's fusterated with DJ leaving his station.

Cheers,

Van Deka
Oct 30th, 2006, 21:33
Not worth getting in verbal online scraps over. I'm just dumbfounded that Ivan came over here and replied to this thread. Very unprofessional. I think Dan was just trying to protect AH by posting a topic like this, not start stuff, but maybe a good idea to avoid other station managers since some of them can't act in a professional way, rather than getting into a battle of words that hurts everyone involved.

I think Ivan should post an appology to AH. I think that reply he left was uncalled for even if he's fusterated with DJ leaving his station.

Cheers,

the apology would be the least he could in my opinion, one can imagine how he flames us on other sites

Der_Munoz
Nov 25th, 2006, 01:16
Ok, I just wanna clarify something here.

It is true that Ivan gave me the opportunity to broadcast in his net station when no one else would, and for that I stayed loyal to him, there were times when I could do weekly shows of two hours and other times where I could do only a show a month for personal problems. He knows that I stayed loyal til the very end, and the end was when he took a slot of mine to give it to an amazing artist called M.I.D.O.R. with the excuse that he can not turn down an artist like MIDOR for someone of less prestige as myself. There is where I decided to cancel my shows with SG and went to AH, who have given me their support since then and have respected my slots no matter what. Der Sezzionz for what is worth will always be an exclusive show of AH in return.

And Ivan, I am where I am now, not because of you, but because of my dedication with music, because all my life is about music, and of course tons of friends who have helped me along the way to become better.

Regards

Borenceto
Jan 5th, 2007, 14:20
The dude is just jealous AH has more listeners... :bike:

:drum:

:redmoon:

First,sorry for my english.

Well.. I think that one radio station needs more property than "more listeners".What means "more listeners" ? Also and DI.FM have thousand listeners,but what? Their schedule is too old and the radio shows of Markus,Armin,Airwave and some other DJs keep DI on this position.My advice:
Don't swank with your more listeners,because that's not specify one radio station.

Dan
Jan 5th, 2007, 16:02
First,sorry for my english.

Well.. I think that one radio station needs more property than "more listeners".What means "more listeners" ? Also and DI.FM have thousand listeners,but what? Their schedule is too old and the radio shows of Markus,Armin,Airwave and some other DJs keep DI on this position.My advice:
Don't swank with your more listeners,because that's not specify one radio station.


Im sorry but honestly I dont know what your trying to say? Distantland said one point that sensegenerate has way less listeners then AH, he did not mention or compare DI station to AH.

So once again if you please clarify your point that would be great.

cheers

Borenceto
Jan 5th, 2007, 17:04
Im sorry but honestly I dont know what your trying to say? Distantland said one point that sensegenerate has way less listeners then AH, he did not mention or compare DI station to AH.

So once again if you please clarify your point that would be great.

cheers

It's simply Dan ===> STOP with your arrogance.

DistantLand
Jan 5th, 2007, 17:47
First,sorry for my english.

Well.. I think that one radio station needs more property than "more listeners".What means "more listeners" ? Also and DI.FM have thousand listeners,but what? Their schedule is too old and the radio shows of Markus,Armin,Airwave and some other DJs keep DI on this position.My advice:
Don't swank with your more listeners,because that's not specify one radio station.

I wasnt talking about DI! :LMAO: AH & SG!

Dan
Jan 5th, 2007, 17:49
It's simply Dan ===> STOP with your arrogance.

You still did not answer my question, there is no arrogance here, its stating facts and protecting this radio station from FALSE acts.

cheers

TheVrk
Feb 11th, 2007, 09:35
too much retarded drama...ALL these sites are supposed to be about the MUSIC ppl

DreamensioN
Feb 11th, 2007, 09:55
Way to bring up an old thread :P.

I think everything that needed to be said has been said. Afterhours.FM is quickly becoming a solidified name in the online EDM scene. It is due to the hardwork of the resident DJ's, and the commitment from everyone that is working together to build the AH.FM name that really counts.

Look at it this way - when you're one of the best, you're bound to have people who try to shoot you down. It comes with the territory. As members of AH.FM - we should not take anything to heart. Support each other, and support those that make ah.fm what it is. We are all VERY AWARE of the sacrifices Dan has had to make for ah.fm. The very least we can do to show our appreciation is to stick by him, stand up for ah.fm and to continue the quality tunes turned out by our quality resident DJ's.

Remember people - P.L.U.R