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Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:47
Told you you would get the first track eventually :)
It was one of those tracks where you can't remember. I sure needed that other help there :P

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:48
Heya. :) Robbie is killing it. \o/

Yay, Luke is here :super::super::super:

Robbie Van Doe
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:48
cheers all :)

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:49
It was one of those tracks where you can't remember. I sure needed that other help there :P


yup, Robbie can and saved the day :)

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:49
big tune \o/ devils night!!!

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:49
010 - Robbie Van Doe - Devils Night (Original Mix) Mental Asylum)


Little advice Robbie, you'd want the track names coming out in their normal font and normal color so click where the red X is in the reply bar to the top left of your screen to clear formatting. :book:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:50
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:50
Yay, Luke is here :super::super::super:
I am. :super: :super: :super: :super:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:51
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:choon:

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:51
are we having fun???

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:52
'Are Am Eye" !

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:52
I am. :super: :super: :super: :super:


:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:52
John Askew incoming :grinning2: :mml::mml::mml::mml:

Robbie Van Doe
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:53
011 - Commander Tom - Are Am Aye (John Askew Remix) (Cdr)

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:53
:super::super::super: COMMANDER TOM :super::super::super:

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:53
are we having fun???

yes sir we are :mml:

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:53
LLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:53
is that commander tom i hear... askew!!!!

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:54
are we having fun???
Did you say FUN?!?! :ee::ee::ee:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:54
are we having fun???


I'm having a blast :super::super::super:

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:54
I can see the sounds. :)

Robbie Van Doe
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:54
Thanks for tuning in people been a pleasure :)

Dont forget to follow me

https://www.facebook.com/RobbieVanDoe
https://soundcloud.com/robbie-van-doe

Thanks :)

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:55
BOOM ! \o/

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:56
I can see the sounds. :)


I can hear colours :)

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:56
My favorite drug - acid trance. \o/

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:56
serious tech bace incoming :rave::bounce:

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:56
hoover time!!!

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:56
I can hear colours :)
We are both intoxicated. :)

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:57
We are both intoxicated. :)


Intoxicated with music :)

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:57
Intoxicated with music :)
I thought it was something else. :)

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:57
Thanks for tuning in people been a pleasure :)

Dont forget to follow me

https://www.facebook.com/RobbieVanDoe
https://soundcloud.com/robbie-van-doe

Thanks :)
[sigh] It was tough for me with that first track but thanks for clearing it up again Robbie :beer2:

01. Deathmind & Sequence - The Concept [Discover Dark]
02. Bryan Kearney - The Nettle [Perfecto Fluoro]
03. Kaeno & Denzo - Famous (Original Mix) [Discover White Label]
04. Sam Jones & Will Rees - Lawless [Kearnage]
05. Indecent Noise - Protos Heis (Original Mix) [Mental Asylum]
06. John Newall - Trancelate [Monster Digital]
07. Prime Mover - Black Dogs (Original Mix) [Nukleuz]
08. Will Atkinson & William Daniel - In The Rain [Monster Digital]
09. Sam Jones & Will Rees - Full Stop [Kearnage]
10. Robbie Van Doe - Devil's Night [Mental Asylum]
11. Commander Tom - Are Am Eye (John Askew Remix) [CDR]

And another cheers for you being involved in nu-depth Recordings day Rob :beer2:

OK Danny, tell them who's next :fishing:

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:58
cheers robbie, next up is mark burton with some more harder sounds \o/

Lucas
Aug 30th, 2013, 00:59
Goodnight. :)

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:00
Goodnight. :)


Dobranoc Luke :hug:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:02
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dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:03
great start!

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:03
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Jon :beer2:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:03
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1zlopTV5p1qims61o1_500.gif

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:04
:rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:04
Jon :beer2:
Hey m8 :beer:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:06
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1zlopTV5p1qims61o1_500.gif


Looks like my cat :lol::lol::lol:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:14
Looks like my cat :lol::lol::lol:
:)
http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://9.mshcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/catmemes/KeyboardCat.gif&size=400x1000

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:15
No tracklist ?

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:17
:)
http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://9.mshcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/catmemes/KeyboardCat.gif&size=400x1000


If only Sheila was this talented :LMAO:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:18
No tracklist ?
Yeah I was in chat with Danny, he sent over Dan Stone's tracklist which was one of the lists I was looking for and, now it's in the thread's first post. As for this....

16 Mark Burton - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Amadeus vs Aly & Fila - A Dream of Peace (Lostly Remix) [Discover]
02. .... ... ...
03. Billy Gillies - Octagon [Future Focus #140]
04. Sneijder & Mark Leanings - Now Or Never (Original Mix) [Kearnage]

This time it's the 2nd track that's stumping me :P

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:21
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skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:21
Yeah I was in chat with Danny, he sent over Dan Stone's tracklist which was one of the lists I was looking for and, now it's in the thread's first post. As for this....

16 Mark Burton - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Amadeus vs Aly & Fila - A Dream of Peace (Lostly Remix) [Discover]
02. .... ... ...
03. Billy Gillies - Octagon [Future Focus #140]
04. Sneijder & Mark Leanings - Now Or Never (Original Mix) [Kearnage]

This time it's the 2nd track that's stumping me :P


Ahhhh, not this again, hopefully Mark will come to the rescue? :unsure::dontknow:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:22
Yeah I was in chat with Danny, he sent over Dan Stone's tracklist which was one of the lists I was looking for and, now it's in the thread's first post. As for this....

16 Mark Burton - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Amadeus vs Aly & Fila - A Dream of Peace (Lostly Remix) [Discover]
02. .... ... ...
03. Billy Gillies - Octagon [Future Focus #140]
04. Sneijder & Mark Leanings - Now Or Never (Original Mix) [Kearnage]

This time it's the 2nd track that's stumping me :P
:grinning:
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CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:23
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

dannypowers
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:26
right guys, mark is ibiza at the moment but did say he will send over his tracklist as soon as he can.

i'm off to bed now ready for work in the morning. i really hope you've enjoyed this special event. thank you for tuning in and an even bigger thank you to dan at afterhours and carl for helping out with the tracklists, excellent work!

good night and take care x

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:26
Really nice break !!

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:27
:mml::mml::mml::mml::mml::mml::mml:

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:36
Hi :wave: how's it been? I guess it's been massive

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:36
right guys, mark is ibiza at the moment but did say he will send over his tracklist as soon as he can.

i'm off to bed now ready for work in the morning. i really hope you've enjoyed this special event. thank you for tuning in and an even bigger thank you to dan at afterhours and carl for helping out with the tracklists, excellent work!

good night and take care x
[sigh] Danny, it's been a pleasure once again on working with you to put all this together. Sure is worth staying up these almost 23 hours in support of you, nu-depth Sessions and the nu-depth label too. Hopefully we can do this again sometime down the road.

Danny, have a good sleep mate, and goodnight :friends: :beer2:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:38
Hi :wave: how's it been? I guess it's been massive
Isaac :wave: Yeah, it's been very massive. Just about every set has delivered. The best one though being Danny's 2-hour nu-depth Sessions 050. But, things in terms of activity in this thread are... well they're pretty much slowing down now.

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:38
right guys, mark is ibiza at the moment but did say he will send over his tracklist as soon as he can.

i'm off to bed now ready for work in the morning. i really hope you've enjoyed this special event. thank you for tuning in and an even bigger thank you to dan at afterhours and carl for helping out with the tracklists, excellent work!

good night and take care x
I just logged in but thank you for this event enjoying these sounds http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music030.gif

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:39
right guys, mark is ibiza at the moment but did say he will send over his tracklist as soon as he can.

i'm off to bed now ready for work in the morning. i really hope you've enjoyed this special event. thank you for tuning in and an even bigger thank you to dan at afterhours and carl for helping out with the tracklists, excellent work!

good night and take care x



Awwwww, Danny finally crashed :) was great having you here and you set was insane, see you around soon :wave:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:40
:rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave:

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:40
Isaac :wave: Yeah, it's been very massive. Just about every set has delivered. The best one though being Danny's 2-hour nu-depth Sessions 050. But, things in terms of activity in this thread are... well they're pretty much slowing down now.

Sure, all tracklists look massive :rave: And guess you've been here since it started, 3 am in your city :O you must be tired

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:41
Hi :wave: how's it been? I guess it's been massive
Hi Checo welcome aboard :beer2:


:rave::rave::rave:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:42
These crazy sounds again!!!!!! :super::choon:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:43
:bumpit::bananadance::bumpit::bananadance::bumpit::bananadance::bumpit:

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:43
Hi Checo welcome aboard :beer2:


:rave::rave::rave:

:wave: A bit late but still going to catch some sets

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:44
:bananadance::bananadance::bananadance::bananadance::bananadance::bananadance::bananadance:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:44
:wave: A bit late but still going to catch some sets
Same here m8 i just came here 30mins ago or so missed alot due to working till late.

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:46
Sure, all tracklists look massive :rave: And guess you've been here since it started, 3 am in your city :O you must be tired
Heh, are you kidding? I've been suffering doze-offs during the sets of Astuni, Shamano, Paul Pearson, even Le Saux & Robbie Van Doe. I'm still trying to keep awake until the end of the last set :P

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:46
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Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:47
nice fusion of trance & dubstep :good:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:48
http://ezsmiley.com/gallery/oversize/huge-rainbow-smiley.gif

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:49
nice fusion of trance & dubstep :good:
:LMAO: really ? :rofl:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:50
nice fusion of trance & dubstep :good:

Yes, I always love producers who can do that well :)

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:51
Tepes - Leiden (Amir Hussain remix) :choon:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:55
:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:57
And to round out Mark's set :book:

16 Mark Burton - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Amadeus vs Aly & Fila - A Dream of Peace (Lostly Remix) [Discover]
02. .... ... ...
03. Billy Gillies - Octagon [Future Focus #140]
04. Sneijder & Mark Leanings - Now Or Never (Original Mix) [Kearnage]
05. Armin van Buuren - Who's Afraid Of 138?! (Photographer Remix) [Who's Afraid Of 138?!]
06. Dean Anthony & Davey Asprey - LOUD (Paul Denton Remix) [Monster Digital]
07. Phil Parry - Venomous (Original Mix) [Pharmacy]
08. Liam Melly & Jon Martin - Dark Matters [Aria Recordings]
09. Tepes - Leiden (Amir Hussain Remix) [Spellbinding]
10. Mark Burton - Understatement (Danny Powers Remix) [nu-depth]

I have still been in favor of the Original Mix but seeing that Mark himself even favors Danny's remix, I think Danny would be proud of that before going off to sleep. So only the 2nd track needs to be filled out and then afterwards I can put this up in the thread's first post, but that won't happen now. :fishing:

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 01:57
Heh, are you kidding? I've been suffering doze-offs during the sets of Astuni, Shamano, Paul Pearson, even Le Saux & Robbie Van Doe. I'm still trying to keep awake until the end of the last set :P

still 6 hours left, I just came and I don't think I will be awake till the end of the event :unsure:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:01
still 6 hours left, I just came and I don't think I will be awake till the end of the event :unsure:
Well me, I'm starting to question now if I should stick around for Alan Banks, hearing how he's in Ibiza right now :unsure:

And next up now on nu-depth Recordings day, this is Touchstone http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gif

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:02
And to round out Mark's set :book:

16 Mark Burton - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Amadeus vs Aly & Fila - A Dream of Peace (Lostly Remix) [Discover]
02. .... ... ...
03. Billy Gillies - Octagon [Future Focus #140]
04. Sneijder & Mark Leanings - Now Or Never (Original Mix) [Kearnage]
05. Armin van Buuren - Who's Afraid Of 138?! (Photographer Remix) [Who's Afraid Of 138?!]
06. Dean Anthony & Davey Asprey - LOUD (Paul Denton Remix) [Monster Digital]
07. Phil Parry - Venomous (Original Mix) [Pharmacy]
08. Liam Melly & Jon Martin - Dark Matters [Aria Recordings]
09. Tepes - Leiden (Amir Hussain Remix) [Spellbinding]
10. Mark Burton - Understatement (Danny Powers Remix) [nu-depth]

I have still been in favor of the Original Mix but seeing that Mark himself even favors Danny's remix, I think Danny would be proud of that before going off to sleep. So only the 2nd track needs to be filled out and then afterwards I can put this up in the thread's first post, but that won't happen now. :fishing:
Yeah me to nothing can beat the original version :grinning:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:04
Yeah me to nothing can beat the original version :grinning:
Those acids in Danny's Remix are good though :grinning:

17 Touchstone - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Orkidea - Unity (Solarstone Pure Mix) [Solaris]

It's not even Paul's own remix of Unity he plays to start off, and.. that puzzles me :ee:

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:04
:LMAO: really ? :rofl:

well that little bit there was :lol: :bully:

jruge
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:05
:choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:05
:dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:06
:choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon::choon:
You come here... to move through time and space.... http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gif

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:06
this sounds like Solarstone - Please :choon::choon:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:06
well that little bit there was :lol: :bully:
:mask:
i just hate dubstep that's all :)

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:07
Well me, I'm starting to question now if I should stick around for Alan Banks, hearing how he's in Ibiza right now :unsure:

And next up now on nu-depth Recordings day, this is Touchstone http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gif

A quick nap is what I'm taking too later :)

I like this tune :music:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:08
Those acids in Danny's Remix are good though :grinning:

17 Touchstone - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Orkidea - Unity (Solarstone Pure Mix) [Solaris]

It's not even Paul's own remix of Unity he plays to start off, and.. that puzzles me :ee:
Not even the last post of the previous page yet I'm pulling it up anyway :fishing:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:09
In the meanwhile..... listening in.. and trying to make a beginning with 143bpm track (intro)

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:10
:mask:
i just hate dubstep that's all :)


You do know that Rollercoaster has dubstep in it, right? :blink:

Altered-Mind
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:11
:mask:
i just hate dubstep that's all :)

aaah i see :cat:

jruge
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:12
You come here... to move through time and space.... http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gifhttp://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/music.gif


:iagree::dance3:

.. and to move through amazing trance sounds.

nice to see you A1stB. :friends:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:13
http://s2.favim.com/orig/28/black-and-white-eagle-gif-Favim.com-238311.gif

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:13
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:13
:mask:
i just hate dubstep that's all :)


You do know that Rollercoaster has dubstep in it, right? :blink:
Except you don't think about it as Dubstep. You think about it as huge Tech Drops & Bass Attacks, That's what makes Rollercoaster sound so good to him and to me :grinning:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:13
You do know that Rollercoaster has dubstep in it, right? :blink:
No way.... ?? that cant be right ??

checo
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:14
What's this track? Haven't heard it I think :unsure:

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:17
Except you don't think about it as Dubstep. You think about it as huge Tech Drops & Bass Attacks, That's what makes Rollercoaster sound so good to him and to me :grinning:


I actually like Rollercoaster because of the Dubstep incorporated with the Trance, it was well put together

Above1stBase
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:17
What's this track? Haven't heard it I think :unsure:
Me neither :unsure:

17 Touchstone - nu-depth Recordings Day 2013 on AH.FM :book:

01. Orkidea - Unity (Solarstone Pure Mix) [Solaris]
02. ID - ID
03. Matt Bukovski vs Andy Elliass & Abys - Cheops [Blue Soho]

Maybe something new from Paul so I guess it'll have to be an ID - ID :unsure:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:18
Except you don't think about it as Dubstep. You think about it as huge Tech Drops & Bass Attacks, That's what makes Rollercoaster sound so good to him and to me :grinning:
Rolling basses, Acid sounds and as you said Tech sound does it for me, but never( and will never) listen to dubstep

skilly bong
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:19
:super::super::super: MATT BUKOVSKI :super::super::super:

CoralBeats
Aug 30th, 2013, 02:21
Rolling basses, Acid sounds and as you said Tech sound does it for me, but never( and will never) listen to dubstep
and...Sorry, but being a bit of a troll here :crazy: also never will listen to w&w/AVB/FC