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    Question A question on DJ rights

    This has been on my mind for a while now and I can't find the answer with Google, so I'll ask you guys. Don't flame please, I know this is a nub question and I'm sorry for that.
    Say I wanted to present a DJ mix on an online radio site (like this one), and I had bought the MP3s for the mix online (from somewhere like djdownload.com), would I be allowed to use the song in my mix, or would I need to ask the label/artist for permission (and possible pay a royalty fee).
    Thanks for your help guys, had this question on my mind for a while now but have been too embarrassed to ask :$

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    Been there my friend, long time ago before digital downloads.
    As far as I'm aware now you are fully allowed to use the track in a DJ mix, and even live, once you bought it from an online shop. That's what I've been doing anyway!
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    by purchasing your tracks from legal online stores you have "purchased" the right to play that track in your sets
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    Awesome! Thanks guys appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by t4e View Post
    by purchasing your tracks from legal online stores you have "purchased" the right to play that track in your sets
    For private and personal listening .. or mass broadcasting the mix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DhumKetu View Post
    For private and personal listening .. or mass broadcasting the mix?
    I asked about radio broadcasting in the first post, so I'm pretty sure it means 'mass' broadcasting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DhumKetu View Post
    For private and personal listening .. or mass broadcasting the mix?
    As far as I know (I might be wrong though^^) you only buy the right to use the track for personal purpose!
    So if you want to play the track out you have to pay royalties, and a club has to pay royalties as well as for example a radio station, but that depends on the country. (Afterhours doesn't have to pay royalties, because it's based in Canada, and Canadian laws allow internet broadcasts for free.)
    Usually it's the owner of the club / radiostation who takes care that the royalties are being paid.

    That only regards streaming, if you let people download your set it's different, in many countries it's considered illegal to do so, and labels surely don't like it either.
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    you have to right to use it in a set, but if you want to broadcast it somewhere, the broadcaster needs to pay royalties as with any other music, mixed or not...
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    the only right you have once you purchased the track is to play it in private, single or mixed.
    as soon as you get out of that privacy you have no rights at all, playing in clubs, on air or even on your private garden party makes it public and the royalty question arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a'ndY View Post
    ... (Afterhours doesn't have to pay royalties, because it's based in Canada, and Canadian laws allow internet broadcasts for free.)...
    that's what I don't get.
    Canadian laws apply on Canadian territory for stuff in Canadian territory.

    Streaming is global, doesn't end at Canada's borders.
    The music is international, written and produced in other countries under their applicable laws.

    Even if the legal situation is 'clear' (as mud...to me at least) the ethical one is far from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90degrees View Post
    the only right you have once you purchased the track is to play it in private, single or mixed.
    as soon as you get out of that privacy you have no rights at all, playing in clubs, on air or even on your private garden party makes it public and the royalty question arises.
    only applies to "public performance" :

    A public performance is one that occurs either in a public place or any place where people gather (other than a small circle of a family or its social acquaintances.)

    Quote Originally Posted by 90degrees View Post
    that's what I don't get.
    Canadian laws apply on Canadian territory for stuff in Canadian territory.

    Streaming is global, doesn't end at Canada's borders.
    The music is international, written and produced in other countries under their applicable laws.

    Even if the legal situation is 'clear' (as mud...to me at least) the ethical one is far from it.

    internet radio currently falls under a legal grey area in Canada and creating an internet radio station and playing music online doesn’t require and payment for royalty fees on the music they play.

    its true that is streamed globally, so than what?...you pay to every country on this planet that listenes to it?...each station is subject to the laws where it exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90degrees View Post
    that's what I don't get.
    Canadian laws apply on Canadian territory for stuff in Canadian territory.

    Streaming is global, doesn't end at Canada's borders.
    The music is international, written and produced in other countries under their applicable laws.

    Even if the legal situation is 'clear' (as mud...to me at least) the ethical one is far from it.
    agreed, current laws aren't made for a global context like the internet. everyone that listens to AH or makes the music that gets aired on AH has different views of what royalties AH would have to pay, depending on where they're from. however only canadian law has authority over AH.

    on the one hand, the situation would be clear and "proper" if AH was configured to only let canadian residents listen. on the other hand, when looking at the royalties web broadcasters need to pay in say the US, those numbers make no sense at all...

    additionally, the ethics of the royalties collecting organizations is questionable as well. does the money they get actually go to the artists? afaik not, at least not to the right ones (in the context of a trance radio station).
    Last edited by dfx; Dec 11th, 2008 at 12:36.
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    one thing that i don't get at all is, a normal radio station i mean terrestrial station doesn't pay any royaltee for the tracks they play, even the satellite radios doesn't pay much, why only an internet online radio pays royaltees? i really don't get it. What is the difference between an online radio and an terrestrial radio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by piccoli View Post
    one thing that i don't get at all is, a normal radio station i mean terrestrial station doesn't pay any royaltee for the tracks they play ...
    of course they do, what makes you think they don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfx View Post
    of course they do, what makes you think they don't?



    i read they don't, or they changed this recently

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